tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post3123170771381210522..comments2024-03-28T03:16:14.104-04:00Comments on Noahpinion: Is Japan sorry for World War 2?Noah Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-6838599133465018482016-09-28T01:23:35.097-04:002016-09-28T01:23:35.097-04:00No Johnny. Fuck You
Nothing But a Right-Wing is a...No Johnny. Fuck You<br /><br />Nothing But a Right-Wing is a nazi. The myth spread that Japanese ultra-right-wingers exist is an ultra-racist lie. Abashi76https://www.blogger.com/profile/03031385034083688179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-70442568771454894032014-02-21T00:28:24.295-05:002014-02-21T00:28:24.295-05:00Well, I did notice that you use way too many quest...Well, I did notice that you use way too many question marks in your stupid posts. So maybe you're actually a 15-year-old 2ch troll.Noah Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-62655922211215463142014-02-17T14:21:15.929-05:002014-02-17T14:21:15.929-05:00@Noah Smith:
First, as Johnny pointed out, they ...@Noah Smith: <br /><br />First, as Johnny pointed out, they are angry, just not as publicly as China and South Korea are. Second, you are trying to shift attention without addressing the issue. The issue is that you (by proxy) claimed that Japanese regrets or lack thereof had "nothing to do with the current state of affairs". This is plainly false, as South Korea, which has a clear vested interest to stand against China's attempt to expand its own regional power, refuses to let the matter slide even with this strategic logic. The fact that Taiwan clearly feels anger but suppresses it for political reasons does nothing to save your "China is behind all the anger" position.<br /><br />Imagine a similar situation, where a rising Russia begins to prod Germany. Would France and Poland hesitate in the slightest to side with the Germans? Of course not! The general feeling in Europe is that Germany learned the lessons of WWII while the general feeling in Asia is that Japan didn't; this difference is a clear result of how Germany and Japan differ in their treatment of the history.<br /><br />I am not against a memorial to Japan's war dead, but to include Class A war criminals and to pair the memorial with a museum glorifying Japan's brutal occupation of its neighbors (and then to have top officials visit at sensitive moments) will obviously damage relations and stir up anger, regardless of the CCP's actions. Why is it so hard for you to see that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-34280217366020494592014-02-17T13:24:02.498-05:002014-02-17T13:24:02.498-05:00They are angry... or at least, they are not comfor...They are angry... or at least, they are not comfortable with it. They're just not expressing their views because that would damage their relations with Japan.Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02860709000519385539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-10500772133843340362014-02-17T10:17:52.816-05:002014-02-17T10:17:52.816-05:00I think an even more interesting question is, why ...I think an even more interesting question is, why are people in Taiwan and Southeast Asia not angry about the Yasukuni visits?Noah Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-50104114206214104592014-02-17T07:29:28.163-05:002014-02-17T07:29:28.163-05:00If so, then why is there a similar anger amongst t...If so, then why is there a similar anger amongst the South Korean population? If this is entirely due to the machinations of the CCP, surely the South Koreans, who would be similarly encroached upon by expanding Chinese power, would rally to the Japanese side and defend the Japanese as having already atoned. Instead, South Korean outrage over things like Abe's visit to Yasukuni have matched China's.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, the CCP is certainly encouraging and exploiting the resentment for its own purposes, but that resentment would still be there without it. Japan's (lack of sufficient) regret has a lot to do with the situation. There are real indications that Japan does not fully recognize the full extent of its crimes; after all, Germany has its holocaust museums and memorials to remind itself - does Japan have similar memorials to its victims, or just the memorials to the perpetrators?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-1610653379283274212014-02-17T02:16:16.374-05:002014-02-17T02:16:16.374-05:00This seems correct to me!This seems correct to me!Noah Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-85717415252945659992014-02-17T01:46:23.572-05:002014-02-17T01:46:23.572-05:00Japanese regrets about WWII have nothing to do wit...Japanese regrets about WWII have nothing to do with the current state of affairs. The Chinese Communist Party needs an external enemy for its own internal political purposes. It needs to make a show of expanding Chinese power for its own internal political purposes. That's all that's happening, folks. Douglas B. Levenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07916420802096618688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-55943323861739141402014-02-15T21:27:47.603-05:002014-02-15T21:27:47.603-05:00Not to mention that it was the Japanese Imperial a...Not to mention that it was the Japanese Imperial army that made it possible for the Communists to take over China. If it weren't for Japan, then China might not have been a Communist nation.<br /><br />I think that many Japanese don't understand the kind of scale that the Japanese Empire had on changing the destiny of Asia. They simply brush it off as it's not something that should be paid much attention to, and hope that the rest of the world will forget it soon. They won't, especially with China rising.Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02860709000519385539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-77280864989968301282014-02-15T09:46:33.689-05:002014-02-15T09:46:33.689-05:00Yeah but the people doing the killing were Chinese...Yeah but the people doing the killing were Chinese too! That makes it OK. :PNoah Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-14184686587545421832014-02-15T04:39:44.415-05:002014-02-15T04:39:44.415-05:00The return of the rightists seems to lend credence...<i>The return of the rightists seems to lend credence to the claims of China and Korea that Japan as a country has not properly atoned for World War 2.</i><br /><br />Communism killed a lot more Chinese than the Emperor ever did.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-39244481655363621512014-02-15T04:37:05.259-05:002014-02-15T04:37:05.259-05:00At last, they have done so; Shinzo Abe, the curren...<i><br />At last, they have done so; Shinzo Abe, the current prime minister, is the grandson of Nobusuke Kishi, an important WW2 nationalist whom the U.S. initially imprisoned for war crimes, and later let out (probably to fight against Communism), and who himself because prime minister of Japan in the 50s.<br /></i><br /><br />I should have stayed awake in all those Manga classes.<br /><br /><i><br />It's not clear whether Abe himself thinks his ancestors did anything wrong in the militarist era, but many of his political appointees clearly do not think so.<br /></i><br /><br />One wonders whether losing and ending up culturally and militarily dominated was high on their list of objectives at the time.<br /><br /><i><br />Naoki Hyakuta, whom Abe appointed to the board of governors of Japan's public broadcaster, claims that Japan committed no atrocities in World War 2 and was acting to free Asia of Western colonialism.<br /></i><br /><br />No wonder they are embracing Keynesian economics. Protecting the world from Western culture by demonstrating what can go wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-668174761941727752014-02-14T22:47:11.431-05:002014-02-14T22:47:11.431-05:00As someone who is familiar with the Asia-Pacific r...As someone who is familiar with the Asia-Pacific region...your analysis of the situation is correct, Noah Smith. However, you seem to have neglected to mention another reason for why Shinzo Abe and the Liberal Democratic Party got back into power - apart from the inability of the Democratic Party of Japan to competently rule, the majority of the Japanese people trust Shinzo Abe as a leader that would stand strong and tough in the face of the growing clout of the People's Republic of China.Blue Aurorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02044362251868221897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-32918688100043685342014-02-14T14:25:49.267-05:002014-02-14T14:25:49.267-05:00I am just a Japanese mom
I call BS. You're a ...<i>I am just a Japanese mom</i><br /><br />I call BS. You're a bored 15-year-old kid from southern California.Noah Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-57564456775587720262014-02-14T14:08:52.791-05:002014-02-14T14:08:52.791-05:00Johnny,
I think it must be recognized that the va...Johnny,<br /><br />I think it must be recognized that the vast majority of those honored at Yasukuni were not guilty of war crimes, although the extent to which people doing bad things because they were ordered to do so should be let off the hook remains one of those long-debated matters. But I would note that the shrine also honors those who fought in other conflicts besides the Pacific War, including the war with Russia, and so on, with many of these other conflicts not involving outright war crimes.<br /><br />Nevertheless, the shrine does also honor war criminals, and the historical account in the museum is clearly a right-wing nationalist fantasy. And given the current disputes over islands and so on with both ROK and PRC, it is simply stupid and obnoxious of a Japanese PM to visit the shrine in an official capacity.rosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-4487588586902679502014-02-14T11:53:02.538-05:002014-02-14T11:53:02.538-05:00Noah Smith
They are not comming, Commies are in y...Noah Smith<br /><br />They are not comming, Commies are in your government under the name of the liberals. <br /><br />Killing civillians is a war crime.Fumikonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-70800910297365555942014-02-14T11:47:35.047-05:002014-02-14T11:47:35.047-05:00To Johnny,
I'm not "Texas Daddy". ...To Johnny,<br /><br />I'm not "Texas Daddy". I am just a Japanese mom hate propagandas.<br />If you want to talk to him, go to his FB or youtube account pls. Fumikonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-62687009634354271142014-02-14T10:54:07.229-05:002014-02-14T10:54:07.229-05:00"Freedom ain't free, fellas."
Damn ..."Freedom ain't free, fellas."<br /><br />Damn straight! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDWSGmphgTsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-75119201687709217912014-02-14T09:59:15.231-05:002014-02-14T09:59:15.231-05:00OMG Noah, have you ever heard of the Mishima Incid...OMG Noah, have you ever heard of the Mishima Incident? Here is The Ward Nerd talking about it: http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7993&IBLOCK_ID=35<br /><br />This paragraph killed me: "So here's the scene in the CO's office: we've got two heads on the floor, a really messy carpet they probably had to throw away, and a desk jockey General who was probably wondering if these wackos were going to add him to the pile of skulls or leave him alive to explain to his superiors how his base got seized by a gay novelist and his four boyfriends. That's a rock and a pretty durn hard place for a career officer."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-7256090870687524692014-02-14T08:55:06.918-05:002014-02-14T08:55:06.918-05:00If the world can learn anything from Japan, then i...If the world can learn anything from Japan, then it's that a government without a check on the military can go out of control and start walking independently on its own.<br /><br />There's no way that the Japan's elite learned a lesson of "humility and morality", because they're still doing pretty much the same thing, except that they're not using military might - they're focusing on economic growth - at the expense of the people.<br /><br />The Emperor had absolute power in theory, but in reality he was powerless, so I don't think that he was responsible for the war.<br /><br />>While war criminals never should be reveered, some enshrined at Yasukuni certainly deserve prayers for their poor souls.<br /><br />The Yasukuni shrine is nothing but a right-wing propaganda site that glorifies Japanese war aggression. Its museum is all about how Japan warded off the evil Western imperialists while Japan freed Asia from them. It excuses every war atrocities that Japan committed. Besides not all Japanese are Shintoists. What's really needed is a more secular and official memorial site.Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02860709000519385539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-48261602778615723342014-02-14T08:45:41.350-05:002014-02-14T08:45:41.350-05:00The Japanese government itself has admitted that i...The Japanese government itself has admitted that it employed a comfort women system in the past.<br /><br />"The comfort women system was conceived, planned and supervised by the Supreme Headquarters of the Japanese Imperial Forces and the Japanese Government in Tokyo. Orders, authorizations and permissions for various actions in relation to the comfort women were directed by the authorities from Japan. In many cases, the women were transported in Japanese ships which are considered Japanese territory. The recruitment, enslavement, transport, treatment and supervision of many of the women was directed by personnel of the Japanese Imperial Forces and/or those instructed by them. These personnel were under the jurisdiction of the Japanese Empire.<br /><br />Many of the abductees were juveniles when they were taken to become comfort women. Japan has acknowledged that almost all of the women were taken by deception or coercion. The obligations for punishment continue to bind the current Japanese Government."<br /><br />http://www.japanfocus.org/-Totsuka-Etsuro/3885<br /><br />So no, the economist is wrong.Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02860709000519385539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-2959659023925620122014-02-14T08:40:57.474-05:002014-02-14T08:40:57.474-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02860709000519385539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-28590561983969617962014-02-14T02:54:59.370-05:002014-02-14T02:54:59.370-05:00I might be talking out of my ass here, but I have ...I might be talking out of my ass here, but I have a feeling that the European theater of World War II is a bit of an outlier when it comes to the historical revisionism of conflict. My guess would be that World War I or The War of 1870 are, if not taught wholly differently, at least presented in a different light depending on whether you're learning about them in Germany or France. It probably doesn't rise to the levels seen in this instance though.Into the Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08558633905293504222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-20258675383898340382014-02-14T02:31:09.655-05:002014-02-14T02:31:09.655-05:00Wow, a sane comment! Thank you, whoever you are. :...Wow, a sane comment! Thank you, whoever you are. :DNoah Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-65156011948357671542014-02-14T02:30:11.406-05:002014-02-14T02:30:11.406-05:00OMG COMMUNISM, HELP HELP THE COMMIES ARE COMING :P...OMG COMMUNISM, HELP HELP THE COMMIES ARE COMING :PNoah Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.com