tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post8991588000054198882..comments2024-03-28T03:16:14.104-04:00Comments on Noahpinion: God and SuperGodNoah Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-39632854940988257352013-12-14T09:25:37.538-05:002013-12-14T09:25:37.538-05:00I'm not sure if I understand your reply, Noah....I'm not sure if I understand your reply, Noah. Where do obligation and responsibility come from? And if they are not based in any way on some perceived *real* consequences, then in what way could they ever be optimal?<br /><br />Pardon the long lagged reply, BTW.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05785048565629818536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-7552010256903798562013-11-26T21:44:16.980-05:002013-11-26T21:44:16.980-05:00Way to bump a 1000 year old thread from St. Anselm...Way to bump a 1000 year old thread from St. Anselm and his ontological proof of God. Without attribution.Ecomediannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-11899721783613801612013-11-18T14:43:14.044-05:002013-11-18T14:43:14.044-05:00if you believe that there is an all-powerful force...<i>if you believe that there is an all-powerful force that will meticulously judge each one of your actions, no matter how great or small, and grant you eternal reward or eternal punishment accordingly, don't you think this would tend to INCREASE your sense of personal responsibility, rather than diminish it?</i><br /><br />No, quite the opposite. Doing things because of the threat of external punishment is completely different than doing things because of a sense of obligation and responsibility.Noah Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093917601641588575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-63043559479691457482013-11-18T14:17:18.271-05:002013-11-18T14:17:18.271-05:00Ah, but they *don't* believe they are judged o...Ah, but they *don't* believe they are judged on their actions, only on their belief. Believe in Jesus, you get into Heaven. Otherwise you go to Hell. Actions will not matter, because we are all sinners anyway.<br /><br />(Note - I am an atheist, and I am aware that the above is not the belief of all Christians, but it *is* the belief of many American evangelicals, who are a major political power in this country.)Redwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10532917611648185870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-91107870464439253152013-11-18T04:17:57.021-05:002013-11-18T04:17:57.021-05:00Hi, Noah. Nice sentiment about personal responsibi...Hi, Noah. Nice sentiment about personal responsibility. One question though: if you believe that there is an all-powerful force that will meticulously judge each one of your actions, no matter how great or small, and grant you eternal reward or eternal punishment accordingly, don't you think this would tend to INCREASE your sense of personal responsibility, rather than diminish it?<br /><br />I mean, eternal divine retribution, by definition, is pretty much the ultimate transversality condition.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05785048565629818536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17232051.post-77799410762152879302013-11-17T17:00:11.636-05:002013-11-17T17:00:11.636-05:00It has been observed that for European countries P...It has been observed that for European countries Protestantism, with its emphasis on individual responsibility, leads to countries which are more concerned about the environment as compared to predominantly Catholic countries. There is a lot to be said for accepting individual responsibility for the world around you. Absalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131268683451462949noreply@blogger.com